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Written by JJ Barnes
I interviewed podcaster Kate Dawson Winkler about the word she does with Exactly Right Media, the podcasts she works on, and what inspires her.
I’m a journalism professor at the University of Texas at Austin, a former documentary filmmaker, and a nonfiction author as well as a podcaster who specializes in crime history.
I worked for ABC News Radio for several years, and I had always loved audio stories. When I began writing my books, I would occasionally find stories that weren’t quite right for a book, so I decided to turn those stories into podcast seasons.
It’s called Tenfold More Wicked and it’s a phrase from Robert Louis Stevenson’s The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde: “I knew myself, at the first breath of this new life, to be more wicked, tenfold more wicked, sold a slave to my original evil.” I love that book.
Tenfold More Wicked and Wicked Words are part of the Exactly Right network, home of My Favorite Murder. It’s available on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Amazon Music and anywhere people listen to podcasts.
Tenfold More Wicked is a gruesome trip through history with chilling campfire stories of true crime. It’s a unique blending of narrative nonfiction storytelling with investigative journalism, a deep dive into the lives of victims…and killers. And how they made history. On Wicked Words, I interview journalists and writers about their best true crime cases to hear the stories behind the stories.
Nope, just me!
I tag-team with other editors—we work together depending on our schedules. I always edit my own commercials and frequently my own trailers.
Tenfold is scripted because it’s like a documentary. The other show, Tenfold More Wicked Presents: Wicked Words, is an interview show so it’s just a lot of chatting.
It has stayed relatively the same over the past year. The stories on Tenfold must check a lot of boxes for me: an interesting time period, an important crime, a storyline that resonates with us today, and relatives who want to talk. There aren’t many stories that work for me, so the quality has stayed constant because I have to be really picky.
Just time—there’s not enough time to produce Tenfold year-round, so it must be limited to 18 episodes a year. But that’s why Wicked Words has been so wonderful (the interview show) because it can take over when Tenfold goes on hiatus.
I love nonfiction true crime shows, like mine, that tackle one case per season so it’s an immersive experience, plus a really good story. My buddy made Over My Dead Body—I thought it was well done. I loved Bear Brook, also.
I earn money, which is nice!
I didn’t realize how important a show can be to listeners. And how invested they can be in you. I have people who reach out to me when it sounds like I’m congested, and they’re concerned that I’m sick! It’s actually nice.
The podcasts launched on the Exactly Right network, so we were introduced to the My Favorite Murder listening audience. We also use social media to share historical photography about each story and connect with the audiences of our guests on Wicked Words. I also love swapping promos with like-minded podcasts. As the world opens further, I look forward to attending live events related to true crime.
Find your voice. Who are you as a host? Who is your listener? How are you different than the other 2 million people out there who have a podcast? I think about those questions all the time.
Yes, I’m proud of my shows. People reach out to me all the time, saying that they’re learning so much about history and society from my shows…and they’re entertained at the same time. That’s really great to hear.
Here is the landing page for the show: https://www.exactlyrightmedia.com/tenfold. All the social links are below:
Kate Dawson Winkler is the Host of the podcasts, Tenfold More Wicked, with a new season launching on January 17 (https://www.exactlyrightmedia.com/tenfold) and Wicked Words, from Exactly Right Media (www.exactlyrightmedia.com). She is a Journalism Professor at UT Austin, and the Author of American Sherlock & Death in the Air.
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